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nanokaolin --- 2007-05-23 11:30:25

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前两天接触了一下朗盛的EVM

他们说这个东西在EPDM和硅橡胶之间的新橡胶,有兄弟们用过吗

德国人还给我了个技术资料,不过全E版,里面有CPE和EVM  EPDM等比较详细资料和配方数据

如果大家有兴趣,给我个邮件,我发过去去给大家看看

jlbjly@163.com

goodwire --- 2007-05-23 11:55:27

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请发:goodwire@126.com

谢谢!

nanokaolin --- 2007-05-23 14:28:18

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已经发了,请查收哈. EVM在乃高温还可以的,做150度的,乃老化的还不错

另外,他不含卤素, 阻燃要用ATH  .

与CPE比,有如下特点 供参考

 

Let me summarize what we discussed:
The current compound is based on
-CM 135 B (a 35% Cl) Weipren CPE grade

-medium filled with silica and CaCO3
-peroxide cured with DCP and TAIC
-Sb2O3
-chloro-paraffin
properties/specifications:
tensile strenght 12 MPa
elongation 200%
flame retardent
10 MPas tensile and 200% elongation

LOI should be 39%
general purpose rubber cable jacket application

Problems:
Mooney too high

aging resistance not so good
smoke density high / high smoke toxicity ?
LOI need to be higher, 39% minimum

Please let me know whether I got the things right or not.

I see 2 options:
a. use a blend of Levapren and CPE
expected effect:
heat aging will improve
Mooney will decrease
Compression set will improve
Cpd can be higher filled
less HCl in the smoke, smoke density lower, due to the dilution effect
costs:        slightly higher

b. use a formulation based on Levapren alone
effect:
halogen-free, environmetally friendly, broad acceptance
filler is ATH (9 to 12 m2 BET) at 150 phr with Levapren 700 HV
or at 190 phr ATH with Levapren 500 HV
LOI at ca 39%

high heat resistance, good compression set
low compound Mooney
costs: higher, the higher VA grade is generally more expensive but easier to make flame retardant.

Here I send you a study on blends of CM and CSM with Levapren EVM as background info. We have not yet done a study for a typical cable compound.



If you want to chose the blend option then I suggest to use a blend 50% CM and 50% Levapren 500 HV.
The filler composition should be changed: no silica, use CaCO3 40 phr and 100 phr ATH (6 m2 is ok here). The more ATH the higher the LOI. The silica will not contribute to the flame resistance.
Sb2O3 and chloroparaffine contribute to flame resistance but the smoke behavior is not good.

For the Levapren alone formulation you can use a Levapren 500 HV with the high ATH loading to achieve the necessary flame resistance. I can give you a more detailed recipe if you want to try this as well.

以上我和德国EVM技术经理的交流邮件,他说出了他认为EVM与CPE的对比

我提出,EVM价格贵,阻燃不好阻燃 ,性价比比CPE差等原因,他邮件回复我的内容

wyj1102888 --- 2007-05-24 16:46:06

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谢谢发过来吧wyj110288@163.com

liancx1979 --- 2007-06-17 13:11:49

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我也想要啊兄弟,谢谢发lian_chunxun@163.com

liancx --- 2007-07-24 15:17:42

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切,朗盛公司的产品,基本都是缺货,真正确定了该公司产品做主材,有定单而没有货源,会把人给逼疯

鹰击长空 --- 2007-08-21 10:31:55

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先感谢兄弟,给我发一份:haizhouyin@vip.163.com

xdifen --- 2007-08-27 13:09:16

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这些资料2年前我就收到了,中文的,但使用方面原因,都没试验过,无法评论。
caizhaojun --- 2007-08-29 12:26:35

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观望中。。。呵呵
heyinghao --- 2007-09-06 21:39:57

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兄弟,能否把您中文的给我发一份,看起来方便点,谢谢!

heyinghao0520@163.com

babalala --- 2007-09-07 08:59:48

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送我一份 哈哈  848fu@163.com
nanokaolin --- 2007-09-07 11:14:44

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发了

wangxue --- 2008-09-29 11:23:06

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吉工,给我发一份吧,wangxueermail@163.com

小学生 --- 2008-09-29 21:20:48

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吉工,给我发一份吧,songxd128@163.com
yjlw03 --- 2008-09-30 16:44:20

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大家看到过得可以评论一下,说明一下这种材料具体的优缺点
jianfu007 --- 2008-10-07 23:41:07

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发我一份!

谢谢!

jf_7@sohu.com

GLHuang --- 2008-10-08 20:01:34

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我们曾做过核电站K1类样品,用的是EVM 500,做无卤阻燃护套,效果不错,缺点是粘辊严重,阻燃性还可以,用的是MDH。

CPE的资料我没有,能否给发一份,谢谢!

hgl_7094@sina.com

20042763 --- 2009-06-05 16:00:05

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发我一份 lihunwu@vip.qq.com 谢谢
billma --- 2009-07-09 08:35:17

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也给我发一份吧,mhz1971@126.com 谢谢!
zhangxin9 --- 2009-07-09 14:56:14

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吉工,给我发一份吧, zhangxin1862@163.com
suifengfei --- 2009-07-09 16:18:39

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能否给我一份谢谢!  dzy8514@163.com

babalala --- 2009-07-13 10:02:48

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不新了,朗盛 也就是拜耳了
东西都出了10年以上了,哈哈‘据说不好买
EVM 500HV 的用过了,阻燃 强度,柔软性,都可以
缺点是低温不好 电性能不好
Troy --- 2009-08-11 15:05:40

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无机阻燃的强度、氧指数都比较理想,一般都能够满足标准 但是有机阻燃体系在强度方面就很麻烦啦

天缆电工 --- 2009-08-11 15:30:37

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我也要 ~~~~~~

lxzh209 --- 2010-03-12 16:39:29

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兄弟,可以发一份过来吗?lxzh209@126.com,谢谢
LIUYUYUN --- 2010-03-13 08:56:11

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请给我发一份:LIUYUYUN@SINA.COM.CN

谢谢!

YJPEPE --- 2010-03-15 18:30:34

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兄弟,可以发一份过来吗?853354794@qq.com  谢谢了
wyj1102888 --- 2011-05-06 16:06:59

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吉工我怎么没收到呀

 

birdcoral --- 2011-05-06 17:30:07

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我比较喜欢中文的,谢谢。birdcoral@126.com<div>我们公司现在正在用EVA和ENR</div>
279349784 --- 2011-05-06 22:35:57

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请发份中文的给我啊谢谢279349784@qq.com

279349784 --- 2011-05-06 22:36:23

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请发份中文的给我啊谢谢279349784@qq.com

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